Could you generally describe how the White House communications
office operates on an average day?
The basic organization of the White House communications
operation hasn't changed much since Herb Klein invented
it for President Nixon in 1972. There is a Communications
Office that thinks about message and events and the
picture and a Press Office that deals with the White
House press corps -- and the press outside the White
House. I like to say that the Communications Office
is sort of the "product development" side
of the House and the Press Office is "retail and
sales." Obviously, the President's message doesn't
get very far unless it passes successfully through the
filter of the press, so a large part of the White House
structure is devoted to this primary responsibility
of getting information, ideas and arguments to the American
people.
What is a "press gaggle?"
Each day the hand to hand combat between the press office
and the press corps starts with the "gaggle"
as in a gaggle of squawking geese. In my day, the reporters
gathered around my desk and I ran through the President's
schedule, took their temperature, tried to figure out
if our plan for the day would work, reacted to any major
breaking developments, and got a sense of what the press
would be chasing that day. It was pretty relaxed and
informal. I could joke around a bit because it was not
on camera and no transcript was kept. I think it's been
done a little more formally in the Bush White House,
but I liked this first encounter of the day because
it allowed you to get your bearings before you prepared
for the formal press briefing which occurred in the
early afternoon.
You pioneered the practice of televising press briefings
while you were press secretary. Why did you decide to
start the practice of televised briefings and in retrospect
do you think it was a good idea?
Dumbest thing I ever did! I was used to televised briefings
at the State Department and I thought the rules at the
White House were weird when I first got there in 1995
(only the first five minutes at the beginning could
be broadcast). The radio and TV folks (especially the
radio guys who had to report every hour on the hour)
said they were at a disadvantage since they could not
use clips from the briefing. So I gradually increased
the time they could broadcast until the whole briefing
was eventually available.
I did not count on the Monica Lewinsky matter turning
the press briefing room into the kind of circus show
it became during 1998. In retrospect, I should have
imposed some limits, like "no live coverage of
the briefing." Once TV could carry the briefing
live, it became a daytime equivalent of a soap opera
for the cable news channels. I think it made the briefing
more "theater of the absurd" and less useful
exchange of information for the press.
What are your thoughts about the influence of technology
on White House communications and the challenging pace
of the news cycle?
With all of the technology and advances in communication
over the last decade -- especially the explosion of
information available on the Internet -- there has to
be a better way of keeping the American people informed
about the President and the White House than having
a single person -- the Press Secretary -- doing a briefing
at a podium once a day. I don't think the press or the
White House has figured out how to make full use of
the communications technologies available.
I also think everyone needs to slow down! Sometimes
the reporting from the White House has this breathless
quality because everyone has the ability to go live
24/7. The press would do well to report on the work
of the President and the federal government by looking
from other perspectives than 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
And they could take a little time and let the story
develop so that we can separate the truly consequential
from the mildly titillating.
In your view, what constitutes a good working relationship
for the president and the press?
There is disagreement about this, but I believe the
Press Secretary needs to work for both the press and
the President. I like to say the geography of the West
Wing is a metaphor for the relationship -- the Press
Secretary's office is exactly half way between the Oval
Office and the Briefing Room. The Press Office has to
be an advocate for the press and the public's right
to know inside the White House. Sometimes you will loose
out to other priorities, but at least the press will
sense that someone is looking out after its interests.
I also think that's the way to best serve the President.
I don't believe that the modern presidency can work
effectively if it is constantly at war with the media.
I think it helps the President to have a channel of
communication available to the press. And I believe
that the relationship -- though it has to be adversarial
-- can be more amicable. Everyone can do their jobs
and be professional but I think it needs to be far less
snarly.
Which press secretary have you admired the most
and why?
The gold standard everyone would say is Jim Hagerty
who was Eisenhower's Press Secretary. The transcripts
of Ike's press conferences are amazing. There are points
where the text reads "The President conferred with
Mr. Hagerty." Imagine a presidential news conference
today in which the President stopped mid-answer to go
check with his Press Secretary! Hagerty was witty, knowledgeable,
and knew the President and the White House inside out.
More recently, my two role models were Jody Powell because
he mastered the art of being a presidential confidante
and simultaneously kept the press well informed. And
Marlin Fitzwater because he had a devotion to public
information -- he was a career government public information
officer before working in the White House -- and he
understood the indispensable need for humor and a lighter
touch.
What would you like to be most remembered about
your tenure as press secretary?
Well there is no doubt that I will be most remembered
for the briefings I did in the aftermath of the Lewinsky
story. That saddens me a bit because I think that whole
tawdry business did no one any good. But maybe if the
bottom line is that "Mike kept his cool and his
sense of humor even when things were tough" then
there is some solace in the fact that we eventually
were able to get back to doing the business of the American
people even when the President was wrestling with a
crisis that was purely personal.
The thing I would prefer to be remembered for is this:
I tried as much as possible to make every briefing the
White House gave an "on the record" briefing.
I think there are way too many briefings by "senior
White House officials" and I think that confuses
the American people. They should know who is talking
and who is accountable for the information being provided.
I don't believe it ever detracts from the President
to have his (or her!) senior aides talking on the record
about the subjects they handle. I also believe there
are many experts in the federal civil service who can
help the press and the American people understand difficult
issues and I believe we should see more of them and
less of the political "spin doctors" who often
clog the airwaves.
I hope my service as Press Secretary will mostly be
seen as a time when the White House tried to get good,
authoritative, and accurate information out the door
as much as possible. Maybe with a little spin now and
then. But at least with a wink that made us laugh.
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